i found this interesting.... .
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elihu books interactive chat
My opinion is very little, based on the JW's I know. Very very few have anything to do with the internet other than booking vacations. Behind closed doors they may grumble about reporting hours, anti-education, 1914 etc, but in the light of day, they do not want to rock the boat that is their lives...all the while praying incessantly for the "end to come" to validate their decisions.
What do you guys think?
Ditto
hi, this is very long, sorry, but i need to talk to someone about how i feel.. i'm not a jw although for a short time i studied with them back in 1984 along with my younger sister.
my sister became a jw in 1984 and about that very same time i accepted jesus christ as my savior, but did not become a jw as i disagreed with some of their teachings.
i did and still do attend the church of god.she has four children.
Dawn,
First i want to say welcome to the board, i'm sure there are many hear that can feel your pain. I am just breaking away from the JW cult myself and know the pain they can cause. They are taught that shunning people is an act of love and protection so it doesn't supprise me that she is not allowing her son contact with yours.
And your husband is right, she will need you again, how you handle that situation is up to you.
RV
i just knew the gb would find a way to keep on going when the end never seems to come.
well, new light shining brightly we all recently learned that the 144k are still being selected.
no more need to "graft" new ones onto the broken branch.
This was just in the May 1, 2007 WT Questions from Readers- last two pages of course. What is unbelievable is that no one, not three elders or pioneers at book study today, which was about the 144k even knew about it or understood it and it is a huge NEW LIGHT and very clear.
Coaster,
I have to agree with you, I brought this to the attention of an elder who said he did not see this as new light. It was only after I, a rank and file, on the way out, witness, explained it to him that he admitted I was right and that it was new light. However, that was the end of it, no mention of it as new light from the platform, no talk of it in conversation, nothing. Its like they're ashamed of it.
RV
does doing what is right in god's eyes mean we have to use only bible terms?
i know the organization is not perfect.
is there strong evidence that he has his people here on earth that although not perfect, are doing his will?
the part about demons had me cracking up. i would love to hear of a real life experience you've had where demons were talking to you. also, the one about people possesed by demons made me sick. what you are basically saying, is, god is such a hard-ass, that, he won't help you until you call him by the name you people have given him. lol that cracks me up. like god's up there going,,,,,what's the magic word?
please? wrong
lord? wrong
god? wrong again
jehovah? Hey you got it, now i will help you.
if your god really is like this, you can have him.
LOL, never thought about it that way, you make a good point, don't think I really want him either.
does doing what is right in god's eyes mean we have to use only bible terms?
i know the organization is not perfect.
is there strong evidence that he has his people here on earth that although not perfect, are doing his will?
MRP,
I used to be like you, seeing only what I wanted to see, but then I took my blinders off. Now I see people of every religion, color, and cread who are happy. Are there those in the world who have ruined their lives with all sorts of vices? Definitely, but the same holds true for witnesses I know. The Org. puts unnecessary burdens on people in the name of God robbing them of their joy. If you are happy then good for you, but after 25 years of following man's directives, that changed in the twinkeling of an eye, I said "enough" and now the only unhappiness I have in my life is the unhappiness of knowing I would loose friends and family if they knew what I really felt and thought.
Respectfully,
RV
ok guys and gals, i (being the assistant to the magazine counter) have acquired the newest okm.. i have uploaded it to imagevenue.com: here.
hopefully that works!.
by the way drew, your translation was very close.
I'm with elsewhere, they have been carefull not to say it's not allowed, they only said that they don't endorse it. This way the local elders can pressure groups to cease and desist. While at the same time they can say "we never said that, and if local elders took that stand then they overstepped". They never say anything definitively in the literature, that way they have plausable deniability.
hey all,.
just checkin' in.
been here since '01, but don't even have 500 posts.
I think that question was doomed to fail, since it requires people who don't respond to respond. LOL, just a thought.
Good to here from you though, keep posting
RV
i was reading the thread about the wanderer and it seems he is very annoyingly stubborn.
i think i'm going to shun him.
lol.
So let me get this straight, cats are not female dogs?
"when i was in the truth....".
"since i left the truth"..... do you still find yourself using jw terminology?.
yes but i always do that quote thing with my fingers when i say the "turth"
brief history: my mom shuns me, my step dad is not a jw but thinks pretty much like one and called me apostate when i tried to tell him some things.
my step dad and i have never been close, he was verbally abusive to me growing up.. well, last week he and my mom fly up my ex- and his wife with my daughter (all jw's) to go boating with them and my sisters kids.
i am glad my daughter got to see her cousins....but, i am sure if they talked about me at all it was not positive talk.
I know that i am late in responding to this thread but i had to say just how sorry i am for you. when will they ever learn.
